I am living in Sweden and want to import a Lurcher, broken coated. Lurchers are not available in Sweden. I have found Mr. Hancocks site on the internet. I do like his dogs, but is there anyone who knows if he sells puppies overseas? Is there anyone who can point me in a direction towards a breeder or a kennel who would be likely to sell me a puppy? Please, help....

Hi!
I'm Swedish too (but live in England) but figured I'd better write in English so others can understand it. You know Lurchers are crossbreeds so not Kennel Club recognised? Because of that, those that breed them do so for working purposes only, and I'd imagine it's quite rare that anyone gets asked to export -unlike show breeders that's far more likely to be asked to export. I'd say your best bet is to simply contact breeders and ask!

why not buy a greyhound or deerhound from a swedish breeder?

colonel hancocks particulary well bred dogs are known world wide and its NOT just a question of putting a greyhound over a deerhound!!! Im sure if the OP contacts him directly, he or she will find that he is a genuine and helpful chap(....apart from his dislike of anything KC registered which is a debate i regularly have with him!!!!!....but thats a whole different matter)

You could always get a rescue, I'm sure you could find a Hancock Lurcher easy enough in the UK

I have tried to contact rescue agencies and the answer I got was that they do not allow adoption overseas if, for some reason, they would have to get the dog back. And even if that was not the answer I wanted, I think it´s responsible of them.

Do they not have crosses in rescue in Sweden.  I know that in Scandinavian countries dogs are predominnantly purebred, but I am sure that they must get some from time to time?

Sadly the Dogs home in Bath for example has a very high percentage of Lurchers due to the prevalence of 'Travellers' in the West country, with who these working dogs are popular, but are often abandoned if not up to scratch hunting.

Yes, we have rescues here. And cross breeds are the most common dogs here too. Instead of your Lurchers, we have a very popular mix breed of German Sheperd and Labrador. They are called Schabrador in Sweden, otherwise the most common is pure breeds. I think I will contact Mr. Hancock to see if he possibly would consider to sell me a puppy.

Well a Grey x Deer would be a 'long dog', Lurchers ae usually sighthound cross Pastoral or terrier.

Oh, I thought Long dogs were Lurchers. My mistake, sorry

Long dogs are a cross of two sighthounds, and Lurchers a cross traditionaly collie and Greyhound/sighthound,

Whippets were often crossed with terriers to get smaller Lurchers, and of course sometimes these are crossed among them selves. 

Many people here in UK call both kinds Lurchers, but that isn't correct.

So a large lurcher with rough coat is likely to have deerhound blood, and a small one terrier blood.

I don´t want a Deerhound or a Greyhound, I want a Lurcher with a rough coat, their looks appeals to me.

Deer hounds are rough coated so a cross would most likely be too.

well it seems there are cross purposes here as im sure the good colonel would clear up if you actually contacted him....why dont you??? There is a big BIG difference between simply "a rough coated lurcher" and one of his dogs.....if you want the former then good luck, you are taking a big chance on what you end up with........if you have one of his then theres years of thought and carefully selected bloodlines behind it.

And sadly a lot of them in rescue too

OP yes I understand where the rescues are coming from too

I would like a Deerhound x Greyhound cross. They are beautiful. The question is, are there any serious breeders? Since a dog coming to live in Sweden must have a passport, tattoo and vaccinations and the transport with aeroplane will have to be ordered, it will take a lot of planning before he/she arrives here and it will take a responsible breeder to administer all that. Any ideas, anyone, please...

Serious breeders yes, responsible I don't know. 
If your asking if there are any responsible Lurcher breeders I'm sure you will get a mixture of replies

Well, I suppose we have a problem with me not having english as my native language. I am just a foreigner trying to make myself understood.
Have patience with me please... I mean a truly responsible breeder ofcourse. I should think many is getting into breeding seriosly with all kind of motives. Sorry, my mistake - again..:rolleyes:

ingalill please don't think my reply was against you and English not being your first language, I promise you it wasn't
My reply was more about the breeding of Lurchers in the first place, sorry if I came across any different

Sadly serious and ethical breeders are in the minority in all breeds and types and of course crossbreeds in particular, though lurchers are a slightly different case. 

Sadly though a lot of Lurchers are owned and bred by unsavoury sorts of people for poaching, and are treated as a disposable commodity and abandoned when they are no good, ill or old.

There are a small number of serious fanciers and admirers of these dogs who are different, and serious and caring.

With Kennel club registered breeds you have the breed clubs to contact breeders and hopefully find good ones, with unrecognised breeds/types it is a little harder, so someone like Sam who move in hunting circles will know who the good people are.

No offense taken Lydia. It is just so frustrating not being able to exress myself correctly. I am just really very happy to get so many brilliant answers from you all wise and clever people out there. Many, many thanks.

You will not be able to get the pup until it is at least 7 months plus the time it takes to get the blood tests for Rabies titre test back.

For Sweden and Norway the blood test must be taken more than 120 days after the Rabies vaccination is administered at 3 months.

I want to take my bitch pup to Norway at some point so have waited to get the blood titre test, which I would normally have had done a month after the Rabies vaccination for her to be able to return to UK.

Even with a serious breeder you may find it hard for someone to be prepared to run on a pup for at least 8 months old, but the breeder mentioned may well be able to help you find someone if he cannot help.

>You will not be able to get the pup until it is at least 7 months plus the time it takes to get the blood tests for Rabies titre test back.

Norwegian Embassy information

The above doesn't state that the dog has to have rabies shots if imported directly from the UK it actually states "Vaccination against rabies is not required for animals imported directly from UK and Ireland into Norway. "

There is an a e mail address & other contact information that you can use to get the correct information before you start contacting anyone at least if you have the information from the Norwegian Government department which is the Norwegian Food Safety Authority, you will know exactly what is involved

Interesting. 

I suppose it is easy enough to prove with a puppy but for example my Lexi had a Pet Passport but we had never been abroad with her, yet I was informed I still couldn't take her to Norway for mating because she had her titre test too soon for them?  Though of course any travel woudl ahve been in her passport????

That is good news for the Poster then.

Are the rules the same for Sweden then?

Even with the europe wide Pet passport it is still a minefield with each country having slightly different rules.

Maybe it was because you were bringing her back into the UK Barbara?  I'm not up on import/pet passport rules - just thought it might make a difference.

Debs

I think it is so confusing that the peopel who are supposed to know don't know.

Doh teach me to not read all the posts

This is from the Swedish Government site

Again no rabies vax needed
When bringing a dog or a cat to Sweden from the UK or Ireland, you need

You do not need to vaccinate your animal against rabies, provided that you bring them to Sweden directly by air or by ship, not via the continent. In the latter case, the rules for Other EU Member States apply.

You seem to have all the links, what did you search under as I often can;'t find the right pages easily.

I google for the government sites & then do a site search for dogs etc

Right will remember that, thanks :D

You also import an under 13 week old puppy

Yes, I will be able to buy a young puppy, if I find one that is...

Yes, it seems very uncomplicated to import a dog to Sweden. The trouble seems to be to find one....:rolleyes:

Ingalill om du behöver hjälp med språket för att ställa frågor, eller behöver få svar översatta, hojta bara till så översätter jag gärna. Du kan maila mig genom funktionen PM, klicka bara på mitt namn och välj "send message".

ooh Marianne where did you get all your letters.  I find using the character Map in XP very slow going, so end up writing most of my Polish using the unaccented and close letters.

I buy my keyboards in Sweden to make sure no letters are missing, couldn't cope otherwise as so much of what I type needs to be in Swedish.

Where can I buy a "scottish" One

LOL

Jill

brainless, i do all my czech corespondence using the czech keyboard option in windows.....and just buy keyboard stickers from CZR to remind me where all the new keys are! Cat you do same with polish? I can do all the ceks no problem, although when i try to show them to you here they just show up as sčř so no idea how the other poster got CD to recognise them!!

I had the same problem when trying to use the Polish letters from the Character Map in windows..

Also the Kennel club woudln't use the letters when I registered pups so I no longer register pups using words with the polish w sound which is an L with an oblique line through it running from top right to lower left.

When I registered my litter by the Norwegian dog in Finland I included the Letter that looks like an A with a cicle attached to the top of it, but it came back as just A.

That's strange Sam, I didn't do anything but type as normal! ÅåÄäÖö! Keyboard stickers -now that's something I could do with as the letters on my (expensive, cordless and imported!) keyboard are wearing out, can't see what I'm typing, do you know if you can buy any here? I only need the really common letters like a,s,d, h and similar. Those keys of mine are blank!!

Well lets see if I can get this to work Całusek second word of Kizi's name and Åstdalens the affix of Myka's sire.

It came out fine, but when I edited to add that it had the first one changed to gobbledygook.

Nope the letter ł comes out as rubbish

Looks like champs likes Scandinavian characters but not Polish

Well here are some more lets see if they come out?

Ą ą Ć ć Ę ę Ł ł Ń ń ό Ś ś Ź ź Ż ż

Nope doesn't like any Polish characters.

There are some weird and wonderful characters here. Are they any help?

The problem is more that the site doesn't recognise them.

no CD wont recognise czech letters either. regarding keyboard stickers i bought my last one on ebay!!!! just search keyboard stickers i thoink.....they seem do do everything from cz to mandarin!!

Cheers Sam I shall go and have a look!

Have you had a look at the Hancock Lurchers ?

i know a very SERIOUS AND RESPONSIBLE lurcher breeder expecting a litter of roughts but they will be smaller, more like half between whippet and greyhound size, due in next week or so. PM me if youre interested. I can recommend her ive done work for her and her dogs for many years and have seen her successes at both showing, coursing (ahhh the good old days) and lamping.