*does anyone know of a breeder in the uk or west midlands that breeds multipoos

they are so cute

thanks

No such breed that I am aware of?????

If it is a crossbreed I suggest visiting your local rescue centre who are bound to have all sorts to suit all tastes.

> multipoos

Do you mean maltipoo (maltese x poodle)?

Not sure about a breeders but just be aware they are crossbreeds (not yet a recognised KC breed I don't think - feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!) so don't pay over the odds for a pup and ask about the parents health checks etc so you can have the healthiest pup possible as many 'breeders' are breeding dogs like this (maltipoos, yorkiepoos, sprockers) as they happen to be popular at the moment and are after making a quick buck without much regard for the puppies health. Also make sure you research maltipoos as well as maltese and poodles separately as the pups may inherit the 'bad' traits from both breeds rather than the 'good' ones although of course this works both ways.

Good luck with your search and possible new puppy.

> (not yet a recognised KC breed I don't think - feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!)

They a re not a breed and never likely to be one or recognised by the kennel club, it takes generations of breeding true to create a breed and because of the amount of wastage (dogs that won't suit a breed blueprint) and the need for a wide gene pool, it isn't ever likely to happen, as there is nothing to be gained from such a cross. 

To be honest these people are not really looking to create a breed jsut find a new selling point, to meet a celebrity led fad.

If you want a little white lapdog there are several fittiong the bill already, from straight to wavy to cottony to curly available.

Off the top of my head there is the Bichon Frise, Cotton De Tulear, Havanese and of course the beautiful Maltese, not to mention three sizes of Poodles.

All these crosses are a way of US ad now UK puppy farmers to maximise profits from poorly bred purebred stock, by crossing them with a poodle male for example they straight away save on stud fees or keeping studs of several breeds.  also if the health status of their breeding stock is poor they hope by crossing the breeds to avoid both parents having the dame genetic problems, but this doesn't work with a lot of problems that are common in many breeds.  for example in many badly bred toy breeds luxating patellas bad mouths )misaligned teeth) will be found in many breeds.

I think the word "multipoo" says it all really!

> they are so cute

the thing is r4ch there is no guarentee that the pup you buy will be how you think they look...

cross breeds such as this have no set blueprint that they will all adhere to (in breeds this is outlined in the breed standard). if you breed a maltese to a maltese you get a maltese looking dog, ditto poodle to poodle, pug to pug and so on.

however if you cross a poodle and a maltese, as is the case here, the resulting puppies will be different every time. if you search cross breeds on the site or designer dogs you'll see there are loads of examples.

because the dna doesn't carry the same characteristics (except a tail and goes woof lol) theres no knowing what will come out- you could get a tiny poodle with long straight hair, a maltese with a perm, a leggy maltese, a black or apricot looking maltese (depending on the poodle used) and so on... plus some really unscrupulous people breed standard poodles (which are really big!) with a little dog- resulting in you having no clue of the size it'll be. basically there is not predicting what you'll get. one of the girls on this site had an accidental cross mating and she says two of the pups from the same litter looked totally different (i think she said one was afghan sized and the other terrier sized- does anyone remember the thread?)

to be frank you'll not find anyone on here who would encourage you to get a designer dog, there are many reasons why which we will all be very happy to discuss if you'd like. however if your hearts set please take the advise of the folk on here, most of them really know what their talking about. definately see about health testing fo the parents (this is so important- things like hip dysplasia which are really common are heartbreaking to watch your pet go through) and don't shell out a fortune- theres a good chance you could get a rescue of the type you want.

if you'd like we can all make suggestions of actual breeds (and probably of good breeders) if you let us know what sort of thing your looking for. the suggesstions Brainless (who is not btw) made are all in the toy group (little and cuddly lol), you can see them all on the kc website or in google images.

i wasnt sure what these dogs actually looked like, so googled them, and found loads of "breeders". look at one and the ridiculous names she gives the colours of the puppy. she is charginf $3000! i cant believe it

Hi,

> does anyone know of a breeder in the uk or west midlands that breeds multipoos
>
> they are so cute
>
> thanks

I don't mean to be rude or offensive. But multipoos is not a recognised breed, I don't know what they are, but they are mongrels, so don't if your detemined to buy one of these, don't pay too much.

There are lots of recognised breeds that are cute.

Thing is that puppies pretty much look the same whatever the breed or non breed they don't start to differentiate until about 3 to 4 weeks and then breeds of similar coat or colour will look pretty much the same for weeks.

Notice they never show what the pups look like as adults,a nd if they do it is only one at a time.

If they showed several pups from the same litters as adults it would be soOOO obvious that they re simply all different and unlike each other.

Someone had an accidental litter between a Dachshund and a Rott.  Two pups resulted.

One pup grew Rott size but had short legs so ended up looking like a Basset in body with a Rottie head with thinner/longer muzzle.

The other pup had the square shape of a Rott, but was small size taking after the dachs Father.

If there had been more pups you could have Had many more variations between the parents characteristics, and that is looks alone.

Now add in the fact that crossing two breeds, especially ones with very different behavioural traits and drives can throw up all sorts of unknown variables.

defo no wind up i just love dogs i already have 3: PBGV, dashound and bloodhound lol

>Dashound,mutipoo...

R4ch you need to obviously look into these "breeds" alot further as not even being able to spell their names is a bit disconcerting.

i don't know, 'designer' dogs and spending money go pretty well together- massive outlay for technically worthless (though i'm sure many of the dogs in themselves are lovely) animal, general puppy goods, then the masses and masses of vet bills as their hips give/they get a skin condition/have been sold as wormed and are not etc etc. were they registered a good kennel name could be S.S. Good Money After Bad

I know how to spell Petit bassett grifon vendeen, and i know he is beautiful and comes from france. Wot are you a teacher?

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>Wot are you a teacher?

No i'm not  teacher. But i think the very least a dog owner should know is how to spell the name of their own breed.

>I know how to spell Petit bassett grifon vendeen

Erm ... no you don't!

My last post on this thread,i have enough arguments with my own children without getting into it with one on a internet forum

>>I know how to spell Petit bassett grifon vendeen

It's " Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen" I'm pretty sure,admittedly a very difficult breed to spell.

>admittedly a very difficult breed to spell.

A tip to R4CH: The 'Copy and Paste' facility that computers have makes it so much easier! That's what I always use if in doubt. )

lol

Erm, yes i do!

>Erm, yes i do!

Only since Ktee showed you!

If you are ******and already have 3 dogs, why are you looking for another one? 

We dont know how old people are, on the forum, unless they obviously state how old they are.  We assume when people are looking for a dog, or posting on the forum, that they are older than that

Do your parents know you are wanting another dog?  Plus, you said you like to spend money, but at your age I would assume you like spending your PARENTS money.  Where would you get the money to take care of yet another dog? 

Put getting another dog on the back burner for now.

Plus, you will find that when you become overly defensive, it doesnt work out well.  You asked a forum that deals with PURE BRED DOGS about where to find a cross dog.  You also asked for a breed that doesnt exist, which by giving a cross dog a cutesy name doesnt make it a breed.  You are dealing with breeders of pure bred dogs, that work a long time on their breeds.  We put a lot of time and money, love and energy into our dogs.  Surely, you must not have thought this thread was going to go over well.

lol frankly i'm not sure most of us on the forum can comment on spelling (i certainly can't!)

as crespin said though r4ch i don't think this decision would be up to you but your parents. cross breeds of this type are very expensive (though no one knows why)

can i ask why you would like one of these and not a breed? you said you like the basset vendeen, why not consider something like that?

multipoos do exist!

well if you look in my picture that is my PBGV but ive wanted a multipoo for ages and my mum and dad are looking for one but we dont want to ship one in from other countries because its a bit cruel also im allergic to alot of dog breeds and so i cant get a dog that moults alot

Have you tried the rescue homes?  Loads of little crossbreeds needing homes there!

I take it that the dog you're after would be a maltese x poodle?  If not, I've no idea what a 'multipoo' would be as I always call them exactly what they are (labrador x poodle, cocker x poodle, etc).  It might help with your enquiries if you asked for a maltese x poodle instead of giving it a hideous cutesy name.

Debs

thanks ill try some of them

>multipoos do exist!

Your spelling is letting you down again. Assuming you mean a crossbreed of a poodle and a Maltese, the producer would be highly offended if you didn't call it a MAltipoo - with an A, not a U.

If you want a dog that doesn't moult, why not stand out from the crowd and have one of the purebreeds that doesn't moult?

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Why dont you get a poodle if you want a dog with smaller risk of triggering an allergy? They are lovely characters, very clever. You could have fun showing, or doing agility, or obedience or even gundog training as thats what they were orinally bred for. 
Obviously, like any dog, you have to be prepared to spend time training, and you also have to allow time and money for either clipping them yourself or sending them to a grooming parlour. But be aware that a maltese cross poodle would likely need clipping and regualar grooming too, as both breeds need grooming.  They're amazing dogs, poodles, Polo's my first but I would love to get another!

No nor do I!!!!!

Although it might well be there are loads of other people who read the forum who can also benefit from the advice without having to post themselves. It's always worth giving the advice anyway.

What needs to be pointed out that if you get a purebred dog of breeds that don't moult you know it won't moult if you get a cross of a non moulting breed with one that does moult then you have cut your chances of getting a non moulting dog enormously as the pups may take after the moulting parent, be semi moulting, but few are likely to be non shedding.

With a real breed you know what you are getting with any crossbreed you simply don't.

This page on the Kennel Club website gives advice about non moulting breeds: http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/435  there is a long list of breeds in various groups and sizes.

Gundog Group

Lagotto Romagnolo
Irish Water Spaniel
Spanish Water Dog
Working Group

Bouvier des Flandres
Giant Schnauzer
Portuguese Water Dog
Russian Black Terrier
Pastoral Group

Hungarian Puli
Komondor
Toy Group

Bichon Frise
Bolognese
Chinese Crested
Coton de Tulear
Havanese
Maltese
Yorkshire Terrier
Utility Group

Lhasa Apso
Mexican Hairless
Miniature Schnauzer
Standard Poodle
Toy Poodle
Miniature Poodle
Shih Tzu
Tibetan Terrier
Terrier Group

Bedlington Terrier
Dandie Dinmont Terrier
Glen of Imaal Terrier
Sealyham Terrier
Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier

I notice that the Maltese is one of these, so you could easily have either the straight coat of a Maltese or the curly coat of a poodle, both are super breeds but very different from each other,a nd you would know what to expect by getting one or the other.

As for the advertised offering to ship pups these are generally American puppy farmers.  You could not ship a pup into the UK from abroad anyway until it was at least 10 months old as ti would have to be Rabies vaccinated, have a  blood test to ensure it had a high enough immunity, and then could not enter the UK for another 6 months, the alternative would be 6 months in solitary confinement in quarantine kennels and at they youngest a pup would be 9 months old by then, and totally unsocialised other than the kennel staff and visits from your family.

multipoos do exist!

No they dont.  I havent found a maltipoo in a dog magazine, or seen a maltipoo in a dog show. 

The Maltipoo that you are refering to is a cross breed, a mongrel, nothing more.  It is a cross between a Maltese and a Poodle.  It is not a true breed, and never will be. 

Try looking in a dog magazine or on a kennel club website for a maltipoo, I can bet all money that you wont find a breed listed as that.  (and I am not talking about a search on google either, true Pure Bred dogs magazines and websites)

I have had to go through and edit quite a few posts ..please let's try and keep this on topic and, above all, HELPFUL

I agree that you dont know what your getting with crossbreeds, I thought it was obvious without saying LOL. Bichons are nice little dogs, maybe you should have a look at them. Remember to make sure that the line of the puppy you buy is health tested for breed specific diseases. And if you do end up getting a cross, be sure that the puppy's parents are tested for the health problems common in each breed. Unfortunately its unlikely you would find a someone breeding these popular crosses that  health tests. A dog show would be a great place to go, their brilliant for dog lovers and you'd meet these breeds in the flesh,  get to chat to owners/breeders and see which breeds you like/ suit you. hope this makes sense, have to rush off now...

r4ch the comments everyone has made are all really valid, these are not pure breeds, you'll have no idea of how they will turn out OR if the resultant cross will stop you getting allergies (since both dogs are non shedding its likely but not definate!)

i think its important to explain to you why you definately need health testing, which usually does not apply to crosses. i got a rescue dog once who was probably the best dog we have ever had- he was sweet, loving, so grateful to have been rescued, a real character- he had all these funny little habits and always made me laugh. whenever i was sad he;d always come and cuddle me. he was just indescribable, my gorgeous Odin.

anyway, since he more than likely had not been bred by a proper breeder it is unlikely he was ever health tested. for his brief life he was constantly in and out of the vets- first of all with a skin condition that made him itch all the time and made his skin weep etc that made him miserable and the vet could do nothing to fix. at about 2 he started to become lame in the back legs. we took him to the vet and found he had hip displasia (if you don't know what that is its basically when your leg bone doesn't fit your hips right). he was in agony. he was treated over the next few years but at the age of about 4 we had to put him to sleep. he couldn't stand without screaming. this was 4 years ago now and i am still filling up with tears as i type. thats how important it is, its not about papers or being able to show, its not about what the dog looks like because you'll love it so you won't care, it is about encouraging people to put a living creature, that you love, through agony.

i would also advise you to look into puppy farming- this is how these crosses are normally bred. but it pretty hideous so maybe wait till your a bit older. i'm 23 and cried and was nearly sick when i looked at some of the pictures and read the stories.

The  Maltese and poodles are both lovely dogs on their own so i dont see the need to cross the two.
There is no guarantee when you get a multi/malti poo that it will be non moulting. This is one of the many risks you take when getting a cross.

Also, by doing the proper research i recommend everyone does before buying a pup, you would see that it really isnt a good idea. There are lots of cross breeds leading traumatic lives in kennels who would gladly be pleased for a loving home.

When I read the title of this post, I thought it was for a poo disposal system or device!!

(now where are those roll eyes!!)

> When I read the title of this post, I thought it was for a poo disposal system or device!!

And I thought it was some sort of cross between different Poodle varieties!

this post breaks my heart

go to rescue!!! there are loads of cute dogs looking for new homes.....

Once again, I request that everyone make helpful posts only.

I know all the information we are giving here is correct and that people need to be educated etc, but I think we also need to remember that R4ch is a 'minor'
My advice to you R4ch would be (as others have said) go to your local rescue with mum and dad and see what they have there, you may be surprised as to what you might find.

there are maltese x poodles on another site but at a £1000 i think they live on another planet!!!!

No doubt someone will buy them though

so...whats the site then seeing as thats what im actually asking

I think no-one is likely to give them free advertising on this site :D

> If you are ******and already have 3 dogs, why are you looking for another one? 
>
>

If anyone had made this comment to me, I would be very cross.  It isn't relevant to the post.  I certainly wouldn't feel that I had to justify, to a stranger, my desire to have a multi dog household.

No we shouldnt have to justify how many dogs we have JeanSW but i can see the point that if this poster is a minor then three dogs is enough for the time being.

I had 3 dogs as a minor, they weren't all my responsibility though and im sure this poster is the same, if he/she still lives at home then I expect they are family pets and everyones responsibility.

I was only trying to make the point that this person, being a minor, and already having 3 dogs, is a lot of responsibility.  Maybe to much for a minor to get another one.  There is school, after school activities, etc, that would take up a lot of time. 

And it shouldnt be a minor, asking where to get a maltipoo.  If they really want one, and the parents are in total agreement with it (realizing that most of the work will be done by them) thats fine.  Its just she gave the impression at first, that it was her, a minor, wanting another dog. 

Its not about having to justify having a multi-dog household.  Its just dogs are a lot of work (as we all know) and to get another one, would add something else to the plate.  Its about thinking it completely through of all the work involved, as well as the extra time and money involved as well.