Oy Sara! Some lowlife human drs. have never seen a private patient (me), and others see the odd one if they absolutely insist but don't send a bill unless they have insurance (him) .

Emma,
What is the real difference between eating chicken legs, heads or feet? I'm sure all have nutritional value in the end. I bet if a dog got a hold of a chicken it would eat most of it. I don't agree with the dog food push at the vets either. If asked of course they would recommend the food they feel to be healthy for your dog. And it stands to reason that would be the food in his office.
Also, spaying before 6 months has many more benefits than letting your pet have a season. Which has been discussed in other recent threads.
Carissa

Sorry But as someone who worked at vets I found they do push food onto clients especially owners who don't look into other brands or complete food and elderly owners and owners whose pets need diet food!
As for chicken feathers feet ect When a food is said to contain chicken I do not expect feathers!!!!And when my dogs have got hold of my chickens in the past that is the one thing they will not eat.
Speying I would rather take the small risk of a greater chance of cancer ect than have a bitch kept in a state of mental and physical limbo for the rest of her life........

Speying I would rather take the small risk of a greater chance of cancer ect than have a bitch kept in a state of mental and physical limbo for the rest of her
life........
Speaking from personal experience, I have yet to witness any of my bitches existing in a state of limbo. They're pretty grounded in their sense of well being. Right now, my two don't seem to be wishing for or missing any swelled teats or vulvas. Sometimes, I wish they were a little less serious than they are. I just hate to think of Chienne with PMS -- she's already quite moody on occasion :rolleyes:

I think they're quite happy with the lives they have now and wouldn't change a thing...... esp. considering that both were rescued before euthanization. I know for certain, Chienne's dam got 'caught' by a neighborhood dog during her first heat cycle. The dam was headed to death row because her original owner was convinced she was 'ruined'. Gave her to a neighbor, but without her AKC paperwork. That was burned in the fireplace!!!

I'll take the preventative spaying for the bitch's health and prevention of unwanted puppies over old wives' tales regarding maturation.
jmho
toodles

Hooray for common sense! Sara you are so right on!
I belive a good vet should direct a new pet owner to something they think is healthy for their pet. That is what the vet is there for advice. If the customer wants to do otherwise that is their choice. I feed a lamb and rice based complete food, wonder if there's any fuzzy lamb skin in it?!
(not trying to offend anyone, just tired of the rubbish concerning bitches and their seasons)
Carissa

Hi Emma agree with what you say, but like Pamela said its late & I`m tired too so will pick up with this & the other thread soon. My sense of humour is lacking at the mo.
Christine2

Hi Emma,
I agree with everything you say. Couldn't have put it better myself.
Liz

emma

can you tell me what you give your dogs, as i would like to change completly on to barf, as my dog loves chicken wings, but i dont know what else he can have.

kelly

Kelly if you wait I will lend you a couple books tomorrow..They do go in depth but you just make the diet to suit as I do..

Pam

I am not the best person to ask as I have only just changed to the BARF diet and it is all a learning curve for me at the moment!!
I would hate to advise on something I have little experience with myself.
I am sure there are plenty of others here with more experience who can help you better.......

Hi Banger as far as I am concerned it must have been right for them to have survived all these years & I`m going to stick with the experts who advocate feeding raw. For me the benefits far outway any risks.
Christine2

i give raw marrow bones to my staffs no cooked ones never had a problem only white poo

Hi Mari,

No I don't show my dogs I have two GSDs, two whippet xs, an Irish setter, a wolf hybird and a rottie X
I have just started doing obedience work with Jake my GSD, and am working towards doing a BH in obedience with him

The club I go to does ringcraft and I am doing this with Jake purely for socialisation and to get him used to being handled, but he is neutered so showing is not an option

T

Hi Teresa . I asked if you showed your dogs so we might meet at a show . To use Johns description put meat on the bones ,
Still nice to see a fellow irish poster on the board:) Mari

One of the benefits..small, odourless, firm poos..

Pam

POOS wher are all my dog poos gone :0
I used to get a bucket full when I fed complete now I have about 1 a day from them instead of about 3.
They love this new diet,when I went to feed them tonight they were singing for their dinner!!!!!!they wasn't that bothered before

That is one of the things I like Emma and you never get a mussy one..LOL

Pam