I am looking to buy a puggle and I have had no success on finding breeders on the internet.  I would ideally like to find a breeder in the Northwest but I would be willing to travel up to 2 hours to find the perfect companion.

If anyone can help please let me know.  My boyfriend has promised he would buy me one but he isn't good at getting his act together and surprising me!

Many thanks

Phoebe

'Puggles' are crossbreeds, and as such are a complete gamble as to which parent's characteristics they'll inherit. You might end up with a very active dog with breathing difficulties ... what's certain is that it'll be stubborn and strong-willed, because those are characteristics shared by both parent breeds!

Thanks for your reply. 
I am definately set on getting a puggle, I have read a lot of information on them and they make extremely good companions.

I posted this topic in order to find a breeder.

>I posted this topic in order to find a breeder.

Well good luck in your search....

As there are no reputable "breeders" who deliberately produce cross breeds.So you will have to find a puppy manufacturer or miller,who don't health test the parents and who will probably charge you through the nose for their unhealth tested mongrels.Not that there's anything wrong with mutts/mongrels,it's just when they are deliberately bred to flood a space in the market.

All i can say is good luck and beware.

champdogs is a website for just that- champion (or potential champion) dogs, there are not breeders on the site that deliberately produce crosses so i don't think anyone will be able to point you in the direction of a breeder.

> I have read a lot of information on them and they make extremely good companions.
>

phoebe, can i ask how you know this? as jg said before this is a cross breed- you don't know what you are going to get. its a pug cross beagle isn't it? thats a really strange cross- pugs are toy dogs where are beagles are hunters. that means you don't know if you will get a dog that looks like a beagle and lies around all day or a pug look a like that wants to chase rabbits.

obviously if your set on this we'll not be able to change your mind but just to give you some info. please read it as its important and might raise your awareness of things.

firstly, the dirty subject of money. i imagine you will be paying a fair amount for this dog? as you would for a pedigree, true. but to clarify when you pay out for a pedigree you are paying for years, even decades of research by the breeder, health testing (which in pugs is essential should you find someone producing this cross, please for your dogs sake demand health tested parents), evidence of the lineage and what each dog was like healthwise, temperament wise and finally in looks.in a well bred pedigree your paying for quality. there is far more to breeding than dog A + dog B= puggles! which is more than likely what you will get.

secondly, please be assured that there are plenty of excellent companion breeds to, not just crosses. why not consider either of the breeds this cross will come from?

thirdly, if you are unwilling to consider the two breeds in this cross then you should not consider the cross. each of the over 200 breeds of dog were developed for a purpose and were bred to produce "true to type" puppies. that means that when jg breeds a dal to a dal she gets dals, if i bred my bullmastiff to another bullie i'd get bullies. when you cross two breeds there is no knowing how the pups will turn out. in this case you could end up with something like a pug, like a beagle, like a mini bagle, a huge pug, something in between or something nothing like either. you will have no idea how your dog will turn out, including in temperament.

finally, please please please don't be ripped off by the hybrid vigour argument. genes are passed on whether mating with the same breed or not and depending on the problem they can still surface in young, or be worse than in the originals- for example in the 'labradoodle' hip dysplasia is far worse than in either parent breed.

i do so hope you read this and think again. i would also suggest you google puppyfarm and look in the images- its really quite horrific and theres a good chance thats where this pup would come from and buying such pups encourages the practise

on the other hand if you want a cross there are lots and lots (including of this particular mix) in rescues up and down the country. so if your determined why not save a life?

lol sorry, massive post but i hope this helps.

Have to agree with Astarte if you want a crossbreed then go to a dogs home. 

> Have to agree with Astarte if you want a crossbreed then go to a dogs home. 

there are so many lovely crosses out there needing homes, i cannot comprehend why people deliberately produce these crosses. and i think people buy them as they don't know why its a bad idea (hence the massive post above )

Here's a blog that talks about how BAD "Puggles" can be as pets........

http://poochmaster.blogspot.com/2005/11/dont-buy-puggle-for-christmas.html

Make sure to read several entries and not just one. One person is talking about possibly having to have her Puggle put to sleep as it is so aggressive. Here's a quote from the blog that sums it up:

The total of FIVE puggles that my trainer works with ALL have the same problems...Bad tempered, short tempered, aggressive, and stubborn about training. Yes, they are smart. Yes, they are very loving and sweet and absolutely adorable, but it is coming to light that MANY of these puggles are not turning out right.

> Here's a blog that talks about how BAD "Puggles" can be as pets........

the thing is its such a weird cross- what mismatched natures!

can i also say for any off forum readers- the title of the blog "don't buy puggle for christmas"- a correction if you'll allow- DON'T BUY ANY ANIMAL FOR CHRISTMAS

iexpect they are crossed together just because the names make such a cute word, rather than because its a good cross breed!!!

Very likely Sam but the other reason could be they are taking a rather difficult, costly to breed but highly priced breed and crossing it with something much easier to produce more puppies from at a possibly even higher price.  Still with no relevence to each other other than that.

i don't think its a cute word, i think its a stupid sounding word. however i think its accurate. a dogs name should say what it is- cocker spaniel, basset hound, nova scotia duck tolling retriever... puggle is a stupid word for a stupid idea

> a dogs name should say what it is

Yes, mine are now:

Upstairs Dirty Sock Retriever, Puddle Slumper, Fox Poo Terrier, Hell Hound and Darling Scrumptious

Just depends what kind of mood we are all in!!

BTW Be Ug may be closer to the truth, poor little devils

I think the "cute word" was dreamed up after some unsrcurpulous person jumped on the bandwagon of pug prices, and realised that Beagles are usually an easy whelping breed with big litters, so cross their puppy farm pug bitch  with the "desirable" pug  studdog (or often a pug cross bred) for lots of £££ (or rather $$$ as it seems to have originated in the USA) and then came up wiht the usual combining of names - puggle snouds better than Bug!!!  Puggle has words like snuggle which sound similar so give the required "warm and fuzzy" feelings that the good  ole' " GP want.

IF the Original poster is still reading, rather than being put off by the good but unpleasant advice posted here, can I just ask where they have discovered that puggles make good companions?  IF it is on the websites of puggle breeders, I am afraid it can be taken with a pinch of salt.

Puggles have been very heavily publicised and are cleverly marketed, lots of unsupsecting puppy buyers ahve been drawn in.  The rescues and shelters are now seeing numbers of them being handed over.  IT is hard to tell what any cross will turn out like, but using 2 such dissimilar breeds will lead to disappoiontment and heartache, health problems, training problems etc.

Not in response to Gwen, just posted at end...

A couple used to live near me that had 2 puggles from the same litter (bad move in itself, but I think it shows the type of people that are breeding them) and they couldn't have been more different.  One was about twice the size of the other, one had a screw tail and the other didn't, one had a very undershot jaw and one was outgoing whilst the other was much much more quiet.  The only thing they had in common was the colour.

>champdogs is a website for just that- champion (or potential champion) dogs, there are not breeders on the site that deliberately produce crosses so i don't think anyone will be able to point you in the direction of a breeder.

If Champdogs website was only for champion or potential champion dogs there wouldn't be many members. Not everyone on this forum meet these criteria. It would be  an extremely elitist forum.

Champdogs membership is open to non-commercial dog breeders and owners, it says nothing about members owning or breeding champions.

Liz

> Champdogs membership is open to non-commercial dog breeders

Puggle breeders?

Champdogs membership is open to non-commercial dog breeders

Puggle breeders?

No. try bichon x breeders 

No need to say that we all know that in most cases the poorest examples and the most ill bred are used to produce this sort of cross, I have meet 3 and they were a gruesome trio, ugly in both looks and temperament. The bits of their bodies did not seem to match so no wonder the poor dogs seemed permanently cross.