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By jackson13 [gb] Date 28.06.10 21:54 GMT
hi i does anyone know where you get the puppy packs (beta) that you get when buying a puppy im interested in maybe becoming a breeder to my kc reg pedigree bassett hound who has 8 champions in her bloodline but before i even consider this i want to know all the facts every other breeder offers these along with 4 weeks free pet plan insurance i would not want to give any puppies to someone who might think that because we dont give these that we would just give them to anyone only serious hound lovers
By LindyLou (***) [gb] Date 29.06.10 06:32 GMT
If you get in touch with the company you will be asked to join their breeders club (it's free ;-) ) and when you have a litter on the ground you inform them and they will send them out to you :-D Again, free of charge :-p
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By Tarimoor (**) [gb] Date 29.06.10 07:25 GMT
Just a little note, 8 champions may sound like an awful lot, but it isn't compared to some breeding lines.  Also, the number of champions in a pedigree doesn't tell you how good the dog is, one with 30 or 40 champions within it's 5 generation pedigree, could actually be a poor representative of the breed, in comparison to a dog with relatively few.  Get in touch with the person who bred your girl, and they will be able to advise further, and hopefully help you out by mentoring you, there is a lot involved to this breeding malarky, I've been at it for five years now and am still at the research stage!  As well as a puppy pack, you should consider a contract of sale, to protect any pups and the puppy buyers, and this should include endorsement paperwork, all of which you can read about on the KC website.  I believe the ABS (Accredited Breeders Scheme) members are provided with a template from the KC?  I have my own made up with various clauses, and have yet to use it!  Good luck, hope all goes well. 
Art, like morality, consists of drawing the line somewhere.
By dogs a babe (***) [gb] Date 29.06.10 07:27 GMT

>im interested in maybe becoming a breeder


>i would not want to give any puppies to someone who might think that because we dont give these that we would just give them to anyone only serious hound lovers


Whilst food bags are a nice extra, that's all they are.  As a puppy buyer I'd be much more interested in the quality of the dogs you are using, their health tests, and the standard of care you provide to your own dogs and the puppies.  If your girl is showing well and getting good results you're likely to find that puppy enquiries come from people that know both dam and sire and they won't be influenced by your puppy pack.

All that said, however, a well thought out puppy pack with lots of clear information can be a great way to demonstrate your commitment to your new owners.  There was a very good thread recently about what info to give whilst people are waiting for puppies (and have lots of free time to read) and what to give with the puppy.  Free food, and food advice is always helpful :-)
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By Goldmali (****) [gb] Date 29.06.10 07:27 GMT
Before you even start to think of puppy packs, you have a lot more serious thinking to do, such as whether your bitch is good enough to breed from (does well enough at shows -having 8 Champions in the pedigree means nothing), is healthy enough (has passed the relevant health tests for the breed -not just a vet check), has the correct temperament for the breed, and what your reasons are for breeding -really the only good enough reasons are to want to improve the breed and bring something to it. It's a huge undertaking and as you wouldn't want to breed from her until she was at least 2, now's the time to start researching it all properly. :-)

The most important things that a good breeder will offer their buyers are a lifetime's worth of advice and support -being able to help the new owners with any questions they have on their puppy's upbringing, health, behaviour, training etc, and promise to take the dog back at any time during its life should the new owner be unable to keep it. This matters a lot more than a puppy pack. Many of the food companies have cut down on what their puppy packs include these days anyway so it's not like it used to be. I just make my own up.
Marianne. Dogs are not our whole lives, there are cats too!
By cornishmals (***) [gb] Date 29.06.10 07:29 GMT
I don't know about Beta,but most companies want you to have ordered a minimum amount of dog food before they send you out puppy packs.They don't just send out puppy packs.EG Royal  canin will send out packs if you have orderd 2 bags on line via the breeders club within a set period of time then send the packs out with your next order.They also need you to have a reg kennel name and a certain number of 'breeding age' dogs.But your best bet is to e mail Beta and ask.
Pet plan again have a breeders club.You can register for free on line,they send you a breeders pack with all the literature to register the pups for free insurance when they go to their new homes.
The K.C also offer 4 weeks insurance upon registration
There are lots of threads here that can help you decide if breeding your girl is the way to go,you can never carry out enough research.
Properly trained,a man can be a dogs best friend.
By cavlover (**) [gb] Date 29.06.10 08:38 GMT
Beta are very good and if you join their breeders scheme all you have to do it let them know the litter size (has to be done by the time pups are two weeks old) online and they will send out some packs for weaning and one each for each of the new owners to take home. You need to register an online account. All food supplied is completely free of charge.

That said, at this stage in the game, free puppy packs would have been the furthest thing from my mind - no disrespect, but really it should be the least of your concerns right now.
By Tarimoor (**) [gb] Date 29.06.10 08:44 GMT
Just to add to my post above, browsing through a couple of forums I go on whilst having my morning cuppa, I've come across a well bred litter of a working variety, 35 ch in their pedigree, and that seems to be the case for a lot of the cream of the working and show pedigrees within my breed.  Out of my two, one has 8 ch and the other has 16 ch within their pedigrees, so as you can see, it's not unusual, nor really does it prove that they are worth breeding out of.  You need, as has been said, to get in touch with the breeder of your girl, and ask them to mentor you and help you to find out whether she really is worth breeding out of, so she should have the correct temperament, conformation and appropriate health scores for your breed.  Again, good luck, breeding is something I'm passionate about, but don't at all take lightly!!  Hence not actually getting round to it yet myself...... :-)
Art, like morality, consists of drawing the line somewhere.
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