how effective is this with phantom pregnancies, i have a bit that is currently having one would it be suitable to use now or is it more for prevention ? what would you guys recommend for releaving a phantom (if anything)?

many thanks in advance

claire

I would recommend Dorwest Garlick & fenugreek which removes toxins from the body, this worked on my bitch(got rid of boobies) but it took a little over a week. I then used it every time about 5 weeks after her season until about 3 weeks after she would have had pups had she been mated. This bitch has now been spayed as I decided not to have pups from her.
I have used Raspberry leaf on my youngest from her 1st week of her season (infact I was a little late and she had been in a week before I got the 'sweeties')& they recommend they are used for 12 weeks which goes past her potential due date. We are now going through week 8 and no sign yet, I will do another 3 weeks I think.

thank you for your reply, its much apprectiated (and to admin for making topic clearer, can you tell i am new lol)

i will definately give the garlic a go as she is well into it and producing milk, last time we had to resort to galstop but hopefully if i try this it will help.

again thanks x

I used rasberry and greenleaf on my bitch when she had phantom that went on for months tried allsorts from the vets and nothing worked, then I met a lady who bred Dobermans and she told me to use rasberry and greenleaf the milk had dried up within three days and all the other symptoms had gone within a week.

can i ask what dosage ? and (dont want to sound daft so sorry) is green leaf the same as green tea (looking in holland and barrett) and can i use products from holland and barrett or does it have to be from dorwest ?

again many thanks

This is not my area.  I don't have bitches...

BUT I do have a leaflet from CSJ on my desk about their Herbal Supplements.  They have something called Phantom Raspberry which might be worth a look

Hope it helps

thats great thank you off to look at it now

She got about five tablets if my memory serves me right, I don't know if the green tea is the same as green leaf sorry I just bought them mixed together from my local health food store.

thanks bostie bo

> can i ask what dosage ?

It does depend on the size of the dog, for the Dorwest Raspberry leaf, as a preventative dose up to 10kg is 2 tabs, 10-25kg is 2-6 tabs, 25-45kgs is 6-10 tabs, above 45kg is 10-12 tabs a day.

I give my bitch 2 a day, & she would have had her pups last tuesday had she been mated & all is well

I use raspberry leaf for bitches in whelp, not phantoms.  They are meant to quicken and ease labour.  I use them on my pregnant bitches all the time as the one time I forgot, that bitch had a terribly long, messy labour.  That converted me to the herbal way of life!!  And I used this throughout all of my pregnancies and deleveries.

> use raspberry leaf for bitches in whelp, not phantoms.  They are meant to quicken and ease labour.  I use them on my pregnant bitches all the time as the one time I forgot, that bitch had a terribly long, messy labour.  That converted me to the herbal way of life!!  And I used this throughout all of my pregnancies and deleveries.

It is also able to be used for phantoms as recommended by Dorwest.