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By eoghania [de] Date 02.10.02 06:59 GMT
Hi Admin,
Lately there seems to be about 6-7 posters whose writing style and attitudes are disturbingly identical to one another and/or past members who have 'vanished'. When they are online, error messages with "full capacity" always pop up and prevent others from accessing the board. Strangely, when "they" are quiet, no one seems to have any trouble getting on.

Is there a way for you to check their IP addresses to ensure that these are all different individuals.... not just one or two 'trolls' whose sole purpose is to irritate other members and maliciously congest this board? Would you please do so, if there is?
Thanks
toodles cool
By issysmum Date 02.10.02 07:27 GMT
I'm not a troll but I have a rolling IP address (I think anyway!!) so I couldn't be traced if I set up a second user id.

Fiona
x x x
By eoghania [de] Date 02.10.02 07:33 GMT
I think there's also something with the originating Server ID -- but I'm no computer expert. Very far from it ;-) :-) Hubby was spouting all sorts of initials and acronyms on how identity can be discovered through legitimate tracking, especially by a website owner looking through history files. :rolleyes:
cool
By Kerioak (*****) [gb] Date 02.10.02 07:33 GMT
Hi Sara

We know they are the same people so why not just ignore their threads or send a post with just a full stop in it to acknowledge it has been seen but is not going to be answered (Needs something in a post or it won't be accepted and a full stop is the smallest thing available)?

This is better than the frb as that is somewhat inflammatory in itself and the risks of upsetting some innocent new poster are higher if we get it wrong.

I don't suppose Admin do anything unless they break the ToS so it is up to us not to rise to their baits (although as the board belongs to Admin, they are entitled to do what ever they wish as we don't actually pay them for this part of the site)

Christine
Christine
Kerioak Dobermanns & Genealogy
By eoghania [de] Date 02.10.02 07:36 GMT
I just don't want to see the board "crash" with all of these error messages. I know it's irritating to me. :-(
I know Admin won't tell me who they are. That's not my concern and I'm happy to mind my own business :-) Provided I can still access the site to read postings, :-)
I'm not worried about being 'told' or informed of their actions. Just registering a legitimate worry (in my warped mind :o )
cool
By Leigh Date 02.10.02 07:41 GMT
All ISP numbers are logged. The reason the system get blocked is because users 'reply' to these individuals and then there is conflict. Unfortunately conflict 'sells newspapers'. As we have recommended time and again, if you ignore anyone that you consider to be a 'Troll' then you do not feed their egos or give them ammunition to come back at you with. IGNORE THEM and they go away. We have proved this to work in the past.

There will always be people who trawl the net looking for others that they can wind up. If you do not reply (IN ANY FORM) and fan the flames, the fire goes out.

The forum also crashes, when people start using it as a Chat Room :-(
By eoghania [de] Date 02.10.02 07:56 GMT
Thanks Leigh....
I just get frustrated when I'm logging on to other threads that DON'T have the trolls and the various error messages still appear :-( I know it's the overall site congestion, but it's still rather discouraging :rolleyes:
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By LongDog (***) [gb] Date 02.10.02 07:59 GMT
Hi Twills
If folks are using the board as a chat room then how about getting the old chat room back pleeeeeese. Even pretty pleeeeeessssssssss?????
We had some good times in the chat room can't understand why it had to be closed.
By eoghania [de] Date 02.10.02 08:01 GMT
Trolls? :rolleyes:
;-) cool
By Kerioak (*****) [gb] Date 02.10.02 08:05 GMT
If that's the case then just make it available to posters who have proved themselves over the months and don't tell anyone else it exists :-)

Christine
Christine
Kerioak Dobermanns & Genealogy
By issysmum Date 02.10.02 08:19 GMT
I've noticed an awful lot of sites are having problems since ADSL / Broadband became more popular :-( since the connection is always on they are constantly logged in to sites.

I've now got a big sign on my pc reminding me to log out of various sites so I don't add to the congestion!!

Fiona
x x x
By Cava14Una (****) [gb] Date 02.10.02 08:34 GMT
Whoops sorry, no body told me that, I confess I don't log out didn't know any better
Anne
Will do from now on
Anne and the bouncing Beardies plus 4 ratty gents <:3
By issysmum Date 02.10.02 09:13 GMT
I never used to either!!!

Fiona
x x x
By ziggar (**) [gb] Date 02.10.02 12:07 GMT
Hi all
being continually logged in is not causing the problem actually being connected with your browser is when the problems start to occur let me explain :-)

you type a webaddress in to the browser address bar and press enter or go or whatever the browser then locates this address and opens a connection to that addresses webserver ((i know that Internet Explorer opens at least 3 connections at a time to a web server so that it can get all the information as quickly as possible)) most commercial webservers have a limit to the ammount of connections that any website can have at any given time

lets suppose for the sake of ease that the limit here is 100 if 101 people try to connect at the same time then you will get an error message bearing in mind that IE will try and open at least three connections at a time that puts the number of people able to connect down to roughly 34 and the fact that the majority of people will be IE users

as i said, being logged in is not the same as being connected when you close your browser it automatically closes the connection therefore dropping the amount of physical connections to the webserver although you may still actually be logged in this makes no difference as there is no physical connection being used

if someone has for example 10 IE windows open, each connected to champdogs then 10 browsers each making at least 3 connections will take up a third of the allowed connections then when everyone else tries to login they will eventually reach the maximum ammount of connections allowed for the server resulting in the now familiar error messages

This is vastly oversimplified for the technophobes out there :-) but i hope it explains whats happening a little more clearly

Of course, the easiest way to remedy the situation is to increase the ammount of connections allowed but, as we all know, extras cost money and as champdogs gets more and more popular, then the problem is going to get worse

HTH

Z
By Melodysk (Moderator) [gb] Date 02.10.02 14:11 GMT
Possibly Mark could start charging then?

That will solve the problem to a degree , of the trolls as well ;-)

I for one would pay a yearly subscription for ChampDogs

:-)

Melody
First year of Foundation Degree completed!!
By steve [gb] Date 02.10.02 14:24 GMT
Don't put ideas in their heads !!!!!!!!:D
liz
By Leigh Date 02.10.02 15:39 GMT
<< evil grin >> ;-)
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