Does anyone know where I can get a decent quartering lead. I have one of the blue nylon ones (from a well known source) and it can't take the power of a clumber. The buckle's got all bent and I'm scared it's going to strangle her.

Need a fairly long one so that we can go hunting pheasants, but I still need to be able to have a high degree of control of the idiot.

All ideas welcome.

Ta.

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ROTFLOL ....... O, Kate .....that just gave me the best laugh I've had all day !!

Sorry, I know that I shouldn't laugh ....but I just had this vision of TH's little legs going like a bat out of hell chasing pheasies :D with you being dragged along behind her!

I must admit that I use a tracking lead (not a line) when I have a problem with recall and I am teaching the dog to obey, but I have never used a lead/line for hunting Is it common practise for Clumbers ? How do you hunt woodland or cover with your dog on a line ? Don't you spend more time wrapped around tree's and cover ? Or do you only work moorland ?

Leigh x

Oh don't laugh. I'm at my wits end with the beast.

I use the quartering lead over stubble, to get her to quarter and change direction to the peeps of the whistle. It means that when she flushes something she can't go off after it and I can get her to sit to a peep and use "gone away" and start again. If I didn't then she'd be in Inverness before you could blink!

She does have to hunt cover off it. I want her to hunt up some gorse on the shoot, as the cockers won't go into it and she'll tackle anything, but I need to do more work on the sitting once she's seen game before I do.

And for that I need a new lead that won't get bent.

Ok. Ok. Now everyone can tell me the 3000 things I'm doing wrong. Does anyone want to take a reprobate clumber spaniel for training?

Send her down :D I like a challenge!

I teach my lot to quarter (off lead) by running with them, sending them ahead and then when they get to a set distance , turn them on the whistle. By this time, I have already turned and am heading back in the opposite direction. When training always do it into the wind.
You can teach quartering patterns/turn whistles on any field.It doesn't have to have game on it. I personally, would treat hunting, stop/sit whistle and for you flushing/for me pointing as three separate exercises and only combine them when I am sure that the dog will obey a stop/sit whistle.

I can't remember where we got our tracking leads from, but they are 20 foot long and just like a normal lead. They are very strong cotton.
I will try to remember for you

Leigh xx

Ta. I'm not doing anything different to that. The only problem is that ALL our fields have game on them and deer scents and there's nowhere near that doesn't (including our garden). So she sometimes gets just a little too excited. So if I have to use a field where I know there are pheasants (rather than just suspecting), I like to do it on a quartering lead, so she can work a bit ahead of me with the lead loose and I can have instant control. Don't always use it, it depends how far up the sliding scale of lunacy she is that particular day.

I'll put her on the train then . . . . :D

You have a sliding scale of lunacy ?? Poor you !! At least my lot are consistent in the lunacy department :D lol

I use a 30ft lunge rein for dogs that might go in on a point. It is light weight webbing and washes and dries easily.I do the same as you Leigh with regard to quartering although running with the Bracco is somewhat harder than running with the wirey Hungarians!
Diane

LOL ...yes but when your used to GSP's the bracco is a doddle Leigh x

AND SHE DOESN'T HAVE LITTLE LEGS!!!!!!!

O yes she does :P Compared to Bear she does lol