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We're looking for one male pup to join us and our vtwo other pups at home.
Does anyone know of any reputable breeders with available litters as we speak?
We're based in Wiltshire, so breeders close by would be really handy (yet very unlikely we know!).
Many thanks in advance.
Jaime
How old, and what breed are your other pups? It is far better to get the two you already have to 12 mths before adding another puppy. Weimaraners are strong willed dogs, there was someone here before having problems with 3 puppies together. No reputable breeder would let a Weimaraner puppy(and any other breed for that matter!) go when there are 2 other puppies needing training, as they would feel you don't have the time necessary to give to this breed. So, please reconsider, have a look at the breed notes on this site regarding this breed, and perhaps wait until 12 mths, and spend that time finding a breeder who has the type of Weimaraner you like and go on their list for a puppy.
By Pawla
Date 11.11.01 12:48 GMT
Hi I do happen to know of a litter of pups that were born last week but iwould more or less agree with the last post unless you are very experienced with dogs and have loads of time ie dont go to work small children etc then iwould'nt consider it the only advantage would be if your other dogs are well trained and very social it can be an advantage to a willfull weimy to have other dogs to be guieded by because males inparticular can mostly, but not always be very dominant and this in turn leads to aggression with other dogs ideally a young male weimy is best brought up with a mature bitch who will always be his pack leader please give it very serious thought if you need any other help or info on weimys give me a shout i will be glad to help Pawla
Many thanks for both replies. In answer to your queries, we have one male beagle (7 months) and one male Dobermann (7 months) both very sociable and both obedient. Both Chris & I have plenty of time for training & no kids hence our wish for one more pup to complete our gang. (We've got to fill up the Range Rover to justify buying it - c'mon!!!)
We are not in any particular rush to get this extra pup - but knowing how difficult it can be to find the right pup from the right breeder we thought we'd start looking straight away.
Having taken all this into account, does anyone think we should still wait for the other pups to grow older?
On a slightly different note, can anyone advise on our decision to add another male? We're not going to castrate the other dogs and we don't like idea of having to spay a female - so we're pretty limited in our choices really!
By Pammy
Date 11.11.01 17:54 GMT
I have two Cockers, one aged 14 months the other just six months. I am thinking of another, but not for another two years and this breed matures faster than yours or a Weimer. Personally I would give it a couple of years. There is another less pleasant angle to think of here and that is, if, godwilling, they all live long happy lives, you could end up with three geriatric dogs together. While the dogs are young and healthy its all great, but when they start to get old and not so healthy it can get very tough. Coping with one at a time is hard enough, but the thouht of having two or three at that same stage needs very careful consideration.
JMHO
Hi Jaime
I would think very seriously about adding another pup to your pack - male or female!!
I NEVER advise having another male of any breed with a male Dobe. It can be occasionly be done but more often than not involves very hefty vet bills due to their having attemted to murder each other.
Neither of your two have yet reached adolescence so you don't know what they are going to be like once the testosterone starts to surge through them and at seven months you still have a lot of training to do. I understand Beagles are somewhat headstrong and mostly do their own thing (not a breed I know a lot about - no doubt someone will correct me on this

) but I do know Dobermanns!
If you really must get a third dog to add to your pack the best suggestion I could give is to get an older bitch from rescue (7 years +) - preferably one who has had pups herself and is now neutered and can help you keep the two boys in their place once she has settled down with you.
Christine
Christine
Kerioak Dobermanns & Genealogy
Thanks Christine - we have both seriously considered the issue of when true adulthood kicks in with two-three uncut dogs. As an aside, have you ever experienced this sort of situation when having two of the dogs castrated has actually ever helped?
I would appreciate your advice about Doby behaviour - is there an alternative e-mail address I can get you on?
Jaime
The general answer seems to be that if both dogs are castrated then it equals them out again and that you should leave the more dominant dog entire and neuter the more submissive one. I have no personal knowledge of this - perhaps others on the list have?
I only have one male and would not have another as a permanent resident in case a door or gate that should be between them got left open

I do have bitches I won't run together though as they get a "little" over enthusiastic when "playing"
If you click on my name at the top of the message then my email address will come up
Christine
Christine
Kerioak Dobermanns & Genealogy
By Katie
Date 11.11.01 21:53 GMT
I have six dogs at present
Two are rescues & are spayed & the others are all entire & male
Ages 10, 8, 5 & 1
I've had upto 10 & usually more males than females as I prefer to own males
I've never had any problems & I've never had a male castrated for my benefit One dog had a cancer that resulted in castration
You do need a good age spread so that there is a sustainable "pecking"order with the human at the top
Incidently only had the bitches fall out & then it was permanent !
Could never trust the two to be in the same area at the st the same time !
Hi Katie,
I think it very much depends on the breed as to how many males can be run together, hounds, many gundogs, some terriers all seem okay living together but Dobes - definitely not.
Christine
Christine
Kerioak Dobermanns & Genealogy
By Jackie
Date 13.11.01 16:28 GMT
Katie I know what you mean when bitches fall out it can be very ugly...and permanent.You're lucky that your 4 dogs live in harmony, what breed/breeds are they?
Jackie
By Katie
Date 13.11.01 17:43 GMT
Hi Jackie
I've got two Border Collies & two GSD's they are all working dogs
At one time I had three stud dogs all living together happily
I think as long as the dogs know their places & that none of them are pack leader there's no problem
Once again, thanks for everybody's help in the above. You shall all, no doubt, be pleased to hear that we have re-considered and shall wait 18 months before looking into getting a Weimy to join us.
In the meantime, I shall watch that Smirnoff advert with the Weimaraner and snivel into a tissue & a bottle of vodka at how mean you have all been!
Woe is me...
Oh MY GOD-DON'T mention that BL***Y ADVERT!! Whoops-sorry-take in deep breath!! That advert is the sort of thing that, if mentioned to a breeder, will have the phone put down on you!

Seriously, it is adverts like this that draw people to a certain breed, not all are like yourselves and willing and happy to take advice, and rescue's all over the country take in a deep breath when the new advert fashion dog takes hold. It would be better to get a Weimy breed calander and mark the months off to when you can get one?!! Get hold of The essential Weimaraner by Patsy Hollings, have a good read, and if possible speak to her-you'll find her number in Dogs Monthly magazine-she has so many Weimars living together, she is amazing! Look on the breed notes here for the Weimaraner, and ring Jean Fairlie (who wrote them) and also deals with rescue, so she has a wide knowledge span.
Everything Christine says about Dobies is true, you are speaking to a very experienced lady there.
As to a Dobe and male Weimar together-GULP! You have two dominent breeds, who are totally devoted to their owners, to the point of being possesive. this in itself can cause problems. Two male weimars together can be problem enough! I would suggest, if you are set on getting a Weimar, to have a bitch. She can be spayed-I don't like spaying, but it is better than an unwanted pregnancy and it means you don't have to 'keep a strict eye on her' every six months or so.
Have a good read, speak to some experienced people, go out and visit some people with Weimars, the same with the Dobes, and see how you then feel.
Good Luck!
Jusjokin
Regarding the advert you took the words right out of my mouth.
By Admin (Administrator)
Date 13.11.01 15:10 GMT

Admin.. You asked me to put a link onto the Weimaraner Club of GB and I did ,... but you dont put a link to there..... sob sob... the weimaraner club of Gb have been going for nearly 50 years since the breed came into the country, it was members of the wcgb that brought the first weims into the country and formed the club, we are celebrating our 50th anniversary in 2003... so please a mention of our involvement with the breed would be nice

thanks
Lynn
Speaking of adverts, has anyone got a cat that partys all night ?????
sorry ! Lorraine
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