SAGA OF CHICO & ROMEO

As a physician of nearly thirty years, I was well aware that no
antibiotic would protect against the ravages of viral disease,
particularly canine distemper which shows similarities to HIV. My second
dog, a seven-month-old white shorthaired shepherd was adopted from a local
shelter and was initially joyful and healthy. Within three weeks he developed
coarse bronchitis with heavy mucus drainage of the nose and eyes. Our well
intentioned vet early on believed the problem to be kennel cough and started
antibiotics. Over the next ten days Romeo failed to improve, but
instead experienced seven hard and long grand mall seizures in one
weekend, a partial paralysis of the hind quarters which made him fall
flat when attempting to walk and a "spaced-out gaze" of
non-recognition. Blood studies confirmed distemper and showed a white
cell count (lymphocytes) of only 264 slightly more than ten percent of
normal. Our vet plus a second out-of-state consulting vet, an expert in
distemper were very sympathetic and advised me to prepare myself to
euthanize Romeo.

The heartache was compounded when Chico, my thirteen month old chihuahua
developed similar symptoms of hard coughing and heavy mucus drainage
from the eyes. Reviewing his shot record, I learned he was mistakenly
given only one distemper immunization, leaving him inadequately
protected; and by licking Romeo's mucus and drinking from his water dish
had contracted the infection.

Knowing little to nothing about canine distemper, I turned to the
Internet and luckily stumbled on to Transfer Factor Plus, a preparation
which enhances and stimulates the body's own immune system to fight
against all pathogens, viral or otherwise. My thirty years in medicine
told me this was the only solution. I hurriedly became a distributor to
get the product and started Chico and Romeo on one cap daily encased in
one teaspoonful of raw hamburger. Over the next two weeks all cough and
mucus drainage ceased. Romeo's follow-up blood count had risen dramatically to a normal range at 2217. Recently, he surprised the whole family by jumping a five-foot
wall. He romps and plays all day long with Chico, now responds normally
to his name and appears to be his old joyful self again.

Having witnessed the recoveries of Chico and Romeo, and after further
study, all family members are taking Transfer Factor Plus, one cap
daily; our insurance policy to protect against a faltering immune
system, the inevitable consequence of aging and exposure to enviromental
pollution and toxins. As for my distributorship staus, I fully intend
to spread the word to all my colleagues and good friends.

If you are faced with dealing with your loved one’s plight with canine distemper,
as I did with Romeo’s, and are in need of any assistance or guidance don’t hesitate
to contact me at rbd3@qwest.net. Before you plan to euthanize, please try to make contact. I personally respond to every attempt to contact me.

Sincerely,

Baruch Rosen, M.D.

I was not aware that distemper dogs invariably died - but they did get marked teeth if they got it as puppies as early judging information stated not to penalise dogs with "distemper teeth"

Pleased to hear your dogs are okay but is yours a miracle cure or a bid to sell your product??

Cynical as ever
Christine

Phew ! Glad it wasn't only me that had that thought

Also Cynical,
Twilly

Someone once told me that the word 'cynical' was derived from the word meaning 'thinking like a dog'. Well, I have learnt to think like a dog as well!

Jo and the Casblaidd Flatcoats

Hello Christine;

I've always been appreciative of a good cynic, but one that is informed. One has only to surf the Net and learn of the ravages of canine distemper. Possibly the strain in the UK is less virulent than what we see in the States. I am totally uninformed of the disfigurement of the teeth attributed to canine distemper. Normally the course is very insidious appearing as a minor respiratory or intestinal infection. The virus will attack and compromise the immune system such that the dog becomes susceptable to secondary infections. It is not uncommon for the virus to attack the central nervous destroying the myelin sheaths much as multiple sclerosis. At this stage, seizures, paralysis and diminished cognition are observed. Recovery at this stage is thought to be an impossibility. There is such negativity amongst the vets in the States that the animal becomes shrouded in the gloom of no hope and euthanasia becomes the only alternative. The recovery of Chico & Romeo (http://www.4tf-pets.com/rosen), not just a mere coincidence, has ushered in an era of a new paradigm.

Sincerely,

Baruch Rosen, MD

Hello Christine!
The US distemper virus is no more virulent than the UK virus. My understanding is that most puppies recover with a thickening of their pads and pitting of their teeth. As with almost any virus, there can be mortality associated with it, though recovery with proven veterinarian techniques minimize those mortality rates.

I have to take Mara back in for her rabies titer draw later this month and will put this subject on the list of things that we discuss.

Dr. Rosen:
Would you be so kind as to give me your accreditation number and the state in which you are accredited?

Hello Sierra;
With regards to my credentials, as I've been in the clinical practice of medicine for about thirty years I am presently retired but not exactly brain atrophied. There are far too many questions requiring investigation and answers. I find the attitude of you Brits (NO-WAY DEROGATORY) to be amazing. Here in the States with social stress forever escalating and human relationships forever changing, pets have taken on a special significance. It is not uncommon to see pets undergoing regular blood tranfusions or chemotherapy for malignancy. As mortality rates for distemper are in the vacinity of thirty percent and with considerable suffering and impairment of those pets, the matter of distemper cannot be taken lightly.
Though I have no experience with disfigurement of the teeth, Romeo did develop significant thickening or hyperplasia of the nose. Little is known of this complication, but after five months Romeo is showing near total resolution at this point. Here, I applied thrice weekly an over the counter preparation of aloe vera and cucumber extract, a product made by "St. Ives".
I am intrigued by Deejay's reference to homeopathic preparations and would appreciate further explanation. In that we are not considering prevention of distemper as one would in the case of vaccination, I find it difficult to envision reversal of full blown symptomology from the active viral infection. Though I stand to be corrected, I know of no "natural product" that stimulates the body's immune system to increase it's natural killer cell activity by 248% as does Transfer Factor Plus. The mention of measuring titers is equally confusing when we are not told, "a titer of what?"
This coming week, we will be initiating treatment with Transfer Factor Plus in a pet raccoon with distemper, a disease which may have even a higher mortality in that species. In a short period of time, I will be able to report of the results of that case. Approximately ten days ago, a couple residing in Alabama started therapy with Transfer Factor Plus. The couple, a woman said to have just two months to live because of Lou Gehrigs Disease (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis) and her cat with diagnosed feline leukemia are both said to show unexpected improvement at my last time of check in. At this time many exciting things are occurring which are totally outside the realm of compensation.

Baruch Rosen, MD

Dr. Rosen,
It may interest you to know that I am an American living in England, so attributing any attitude to 'Brits' is a bit presumptious. I will attest that those here in England place special significance upon their animals, perhaps in some cases, more than my fellow countrymen do. For example, it is not uncommon for *most* dogs in the UK to be taken for daily walks, providing a bonding with the animals that is sometimes different than in the States where dogs have large backyards (gardens) to get their exercise in; most shopping areas have spots for leashing the dogs and many have dog watering facilities here in the UK -- you don't find that in the States; dogs are commonly permitted on trains and buses -- again something that is not common in the States. Without detracting from the love and significance that Americans do place on their pets, I cannot with all good conscience say that the British are any less devoted to their animals.

I read in your first post that you had been in clinical practice; I, too, was in law practice in the States and realize that most of us even if not practicing still maintain our licensing. My question could have perhaps been more succinctly asked: What state are you or were you licensed in?

While I do not have the time presently to validate your figures for mortality rates, it may warrant a call to several of my veternarian friends still in the US to obtain the figures of both mortality and frequency of illness (since most dogs in the US are routinely vaccinated against such as puppies and annually thereafter).

The people on this board and I may have differences of opinion from time to time (we are humans and it's to be expected that we don't all think alike), however, I have found them to be sanely questioning people who don't easily buy into 'take this and cure a thousand and one ills' infomercials.

I look forward to receiving your license number and issuing state.

Hello Sierra;
I stand corrected on the Brits' attitude towards their pet dogs and am appreciative of your observations. I was certainly not implying that society in the
States was better than in the UK. With planned obsolescence, rampant consumerism and plastic money, I'm expecting our society to implode any day now.Though I value healthy cynacism, I become critical when there is no directed effort to uncover the truth with "appropriate questions". I am sure you are aware of the persecution of many great European scientists whose beliefs and discoveries were in opposition to the status quo.
Your interpretation of my testimony regarding the Saga of Chico & Romeo (http://www.4tf-pets.com/rosen/) as an infomercial making countless unfounded claims is unwarranted. You either believe it or you don't! That's certainly your perogative. I've attempted to accummulate as much documentation as possible for satisfaction of my own intellectual curiousity. Checking mortality statistics for distemper is a simple matter. Just surfing the Internet will uncover multiple articles covering the topic and formulated by respected university vet centers.
Regarding your request for my State License number, I would be considered a fool for divulging such information; particularly to a lawyer.

Sincerely,
Baruch Rosen, MD

Actually my comment regarding 'infomercials' was slanted more toward the little nuggets of information that you inserted into one of your posts concering the woman with Lou Gehrig's Disease and her dog. I remember quite well the claims of 'miracle cures' for cancer that sent so many flocking to Mexico rather than utilize the traditional methods of chemotherapy and radiation treatments. The statement in question was: "Approximately ten days ago, a couple residing in Alabama started therapy with Transfer Factor Plus. The couple, a woman said to have just two months to live because of Lou Gehrigs Disease (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis) and her cat with diagnosed feline leukemia are both said to show unexpected improvement at my last time of check in. At this time many exciting things are occurring which are totally outside the realm of compensation." which tends to imply that the dog and the woman, both with fatal diseases, are extending their lives through the use of a treatement which, as *I* understand it, has not yet met FDA protocols in the US or in any other country.

You are quite right, those of us holding Juris Doctorates tend to be very cynical. But when we are discussing situations wherein we are asked to use alternative treatments that are not proven through traditional medical studies -- and at a very high cost -- people *should* be cynical. They should ask for validation.

I'm at a quandry, though, as to why you would willingly give your name (which is not a very common name) and then be unwilling to give your accreditation State and number. It's a simple matter, as you know, to go to the AMA and request the information. My advice to anyone who is trying alternative methods at expensive costs is to obtain as much information as possible about both the method and the person campaigning that method. I can assure you that the British people do not have the same propensity for pursuing personal injury claims that my fellow countrymen do. Another plus for the British way of life -- no million dollar lawsuits for spilling a cup of hot coffee on oneself while pulling out of a drive-through; the British have enough sense to recognize that hot tea and coffee tends to be served hot and can burn. **winking** Lots of commonsense over here in the UK.

Just my tuppence worth once more.

Hello Sierra;

Now my time for a tuppence worth. Those nuggets were thrown in to instill a bit of hope in a situation that appears without favorable resolution and to stimulate relevant questioning. The essence is not just a matter of compensation, but rather because we can rarely predict the outcome of such events. I'm sure you'll agree all illness, whether directed towards humans or animals, are dependent on an adequately functioning immune system for resolution. That "adequacy" is our lifeline for maintaining homeostasis. It is now an established fact that the brains, immune & endocrine systems of all mammals all share common chemical messengers. Who can refute that our hopes and prayers are capable of initiating a favorable immune response to maintain homeostasis? Does this methodology exist solely for humans, or are other mammalian species allowed into the inner circle? I have no foreknowledge of the outcome for our lady with Lou Gehrigs Disease. Don't forget, your own strong willed and immensely talented astrophysicist, Stephen Hawking, has exceeded expectations by living into his fifties, siring three children and continues to be exceedingly productive in his area of specialty. When one has but two months, is there room to dally about?
You appear to have confidence in the "established" system, much like many influential Board members attempting to maintain the status quo by failing to give fair consideration to new or different considerations. Will radiation and chemotherapy still be the sine qua non for cancer therapy five years from now? Or will we be attempting to stimulate our immune systems?

Sincerely,

Baruch Rosen, MD

If you are as qualified as you state you are you must know the Homoeopathic theories!

If not check out any homoeopathic site & i'm sure you'll find the answers

All I know is when the dogs in this area had kennel cough & parvo(incuding vaccinated dogs)mine & my friends homoepathically treated dogs didn't

My 19(yes nineteen)year old dog has only ever had this prevention treatment & when i got her had low titre levels

She now has titre levels higher than needed to protect her

You of course have more experience of distempter as my dogs treated homoepathically hav never had the illness

Hello Deejay;

Though it may appear strange, the disciplines of allopathic and homeopathic medicine are considered separate in the States. Having studied the traditional or allopathic discipline, I had no formal training in homeopathic medicine. In fact, most of the allopathic medical boards would seek to sanction any of their physicians practicing homeopathy. It must be done in secret lest the Board find out about it. I know this rivalry is not evident in the European countries. I certainly believe you should stick to any methodology that works for you and your observation that dogs treated with homeopathic preparations fare better than dogs given traditional vaccinations is significant and warrants further investigation. For about six years in the eighties, I practiced a form of acupuncture and noted amazing results for certain conditions. At that time, most Boards would not look kindly to any of their physicians involved in the practice of acupuncture. Today, allopathic physicians are under considerable pressure from the public to give honest consideration towards alternative therapies, such as homeopathy, chiropractics, biofeedback and others. Usually, the influential Board members are refractory towards extending consideration to non-allopathic disciplines.
During my years of practice, I attended many lectures in homeopathy and, unfortunately, continue to have difficulties believing the principles by which homeopathy is effective. However, as that discipline appears to be withstanding the test of time, its deserving of further indepth investigation.

Sincerely,
Baruch Rosen, MD

It can be bought over the internet for between $35 - £50 for a months supply and some sites reccommend 2 different dosages per dog per dog.
Obviously quite a nice little earner for someone!

:rolleyes:

It's much cheaper to use UK produced HOMOEOPATHIC tablets for prevention of infection. If it's been good enough for the Queen's dogs for the past 50 years it's good enough for my lowly dogs!

Titre levels show the tablets work too!

I've no connection with any commerical company & order directly from the pharmacy

Hi Deejay, I`m really interested in the homoeopathic treatment. Could you please give me some info. It would be much appreciated.

Hi Christine
Depends what you want to know!
I use homoeopathic vaccination tablets & worm prevention tablets for my dogs & if I have any special prblems I ring the pharmacy & ask their advice.
i also contact doreen paige as she produces homoeopathic treatments fromher homoeopath as well
What exactly are you interested in ??
DJ

Hi Deejay. EVERYTHING! I would like some good books on alternative medicine,if you could recommend any I think that might be a good place to start.Is it very successful & who are pharmacy7? What do you use for fleas & ticks? I have a couple of books on homoeopathics but they don`t go in to much detail, just sort of basic. Thanks a lot. Who is Doreen Paige?

hi Christine
Try putting Chris Day or George McLeod into your search engine they've written excellent books
Sadly I don't think Mr Mcleod is with us any longer
the pharmacy is AINSWORTHS & they're the Queen's Homoeopathic suppliers!
My digs get garlic perles to deter fleas & I've a herbalist spray with Lavendar & other oils in it
My dogs enjoy being groomed so get brushed etc daily so any fleas etc are quickly spotted & I use herbal shamppos etc Luckily(touch wood) I've never found a tick on my dogs to date
Doreen Paige is a very experienced dog lady who now has her own range of Homoepathic remedies as well as natural dog grooming shampooes conditioners etc-she's not on the net as far as I know
If my memory serves me right Ainsworths might even have a book list

Thanks Deejay, I give my lot a clove of garlic popped in with thier food daily, they eat anything. I don`t know about herbal sprays as they swim daily. I am waiting on a pile of stuff from Ainsworths,including a book & Ithink a booklist but it`s taking rather a long time to get here. I spoke to them today & they are chasing it up. I am really interested in this alternative medicine. What is the success rate for the alternative to vacc. do you know? Do your dogs swim, because surely it would wash the spray off? I have found ticks on my dogs but just when they are walking on looking for a juicy place to sink thier spike in! I take them off & incinerate them with my lighter. I will look for those 2 names you suggest & let you know how I get on

Hi Christine
I only know that my dogs & everyone's I know who use the homoeopathic methods have never had a dog go down with any of the diseases & the queen's been using them for years!!
My dogs swim please! They are far to delicate!! Actually I wouln't take them anywhere round here especially not the beaches when the holiday makers are around!
Add to their aversion to being wet!
One of my collies was accused of being the dog on the Pedigree Chum advert-which he strongly denies for the following reasons
1. He would had had to get wet!
2.He wouldn't eat the food so couldn't possibly advertize it
3.What he would have being doing to the Golden could not have put out B4 9 o'clock!1!
I also use is dilutes Strike from Osmonds in the shampoo!! It kills fleas etc immediately or at least it does on mine!

Hi Deejay what bliss to have such gentile dogs. mine are such scallies,reprobates hooligans, vandals, you name it! But they are adorable when they are asleep(usually where they are not suppossed to be) Guess if its good enough for the Queens & your elegant dogs its got to be worth a go for my bunch of lunatics.

Hi Christine

Mine elegant Ha Ha they're just wimps! dispite being Working bred Collies They perfer me to Work & them to supervise!1

Going to Bath them tomorrow but haven't mentioned the B word to them otherwise they'll be in the potting shed with the old man!!

My CKCS puppy has a staffie girlfriend but she's a tart rolls upside down for any dog!1

She should be called Lilo Lil(ooh showing me age if you don't remember Bread)-knickers off & ready for action

Hope yu get the books it is a fasinating subject