I have a miniature poodle and his barking is uncontrolable (whenever there is a noise, people/children on the street etc.). He also jumps at people when they come and visit, which can be quite annoying. I have bought Aboistop collar and it (sort of) worked, but as someone else pointed out - it sprays him on any noise and not just his barking, therefore is useless as it can only confuse him. It was also quite heavy for his neck so my question is: before I splash out double the price of Aboistop on this remote collar - how heavy is it? Could a small dog cope with its weight? On the photos it looks very similar to Aboistop size.

Thanks!

Maz

It is the same size. JH

Thanks. What about a mini Aboistop? I've seen that somewhere too. Is that one for smaller dogs?

I believe it is smaller but is not remote control. JH

Do these collars hurt the dog? Its not like the collie that shocks the dogs? so it just puffs up air then?

Julieann

This kind of device will interrupt the behaviour that you are trying to stop. However if the behaviour is stress related and you do not address this as such, the dog is likely to develop another outlet for the stress. It has to come out somewhere. Treat the cause and not the symptons.

Wiz

Wiz.... how would you get a dog to stop barking for no reason, when you arent in the same room, but in bed? She does not need to go out (we have done that), she doesnt want a drink, has company so isnt lonely.... she just thinks its time to get up and I DONT agree !

I look forward to your input and advice.

Regards
Lynn

I know that one, a pain it really is. What I have done is allowed her out for a pee, and shut the kitchen door on her, so she is fre to do her own thing, but doesn't interact with me. Gradually they stop seeing the point in getting up if they didn't really need to as I wasn't going to get up with them!

I am at present looking after my friends in season bitch, and she gets up at 5.30 am!!

Oh Brainless......... how long does it take as we have been on with this for 10 weeks and I am soooo tired I keep falling asleep in the afternoons ! (lol thats my excuse anyway). I;ve never had this with any of my other dogs and its not as though she is alone!

Lynn

Oh Weims, Ear plugs are cheaper than MasterPlus as long as the neighbours are not being troubled. Jackie H

Type in 'anti bark collars' on a search engine. Ive just done it and found a place that hires them out. If you cant find it I will E mail you with the address.

Regards Nicki

Hiya,
I know nothing about these collars but picked up a magazine the
other day by canine chemists direct. On page57 their is
Aboistop collar- anti-bark training collar with scent of citronella
priced £72-00. Their email is sales@caninechemists.co.uk
I have no idea if they work but I shall read the comments people
make with interest.
Hope that helps.
Nutkin

That type of collar does not have a remote control, I found that they fire if other dogs bark or you drop a feed bowl and thought it would be a bit confusing and unfair on the dog who was wearing it at the time. The type of collar with the control switch is called MasterPlus and is available from The Company of Animials. Jackie H

The Master Plus collar is being redesigned at the moment and as far as I know is not available from COA until the new design is released sometime early summer.....

Thanks to everyone who has replied. I am very interested in the collar you use Jackie, thats the sort of thing I think I need, and wizard I see where you are coming from but the problem is not stress related. .... its related to wanting to get up far too early in the morning, she has 3 other dogs in the same room for company and none of them bark, but boy can she keep going. I have tried squirting water from the hall doorway but she stops for a short time and then starts again. I think if I could interrupt the behaviour with something not so nice she would stop! What do others think?

Lynn

Weims where are you - if it is any where near me I'll lend you mine I can do without for a day or so and that is all it will take. Jackie H

Lynn, if this is your pup thats barking then it all becomes clear to me!
She is ENTHUSIASTIC and wants to be an early riser! LOL :P
Sorry...couldnt resist it. :D :D :D

Wiz

Weims have you tried your local dog warden, in some areas they have collars that they hire out. Ingrid

Hi Jackie, I'm in West Yorkshire.....

Where are you?

Lynn

You poor thing... you have a "morning dog." She's the same breed as "morning people" chipper, cheerful, and because she's up, she thinks everyone else should be up. :P The rest of us lowly humans want to murder them (just kidding, of course)

Send her to my dad in Seattle. They can be happy together. He's up at regular intervals from 1am to 5am and he's been retired for decades!!! :D :D :D
toodles

Can these collars help to stop dogs spending on a walk?

Many thanks, Tim

The mind boggles Tim

Yes, but I don't think they should be use for this as it may inhibit the dog from passing water anywhere where he can be seen. I take it that is what you mean and not blowing the housekeeping on a new hat. JH

:D :D :D

Jackie this is a guide dog and spending on a walk is a problem for the owner .he has been trying to find asolution to this problem:) Gillian

Sorry I did not know or remember that this was a guide dog, by I realy don't think a spray collar should be used. There is no point in suggesting that the dog is refered back to his trainer I supose, as I would expect that was the first thing that was tried. It would seen that the dog needs retraining to pee on command and not to scent mark, I take it it is a male. may be this is one occasion when I would approve of castration. Would it be possible for a fully sighted, experianced, dog walker to walk the dog so that they could see when the dog was about to sniff and correct the action. Sorry again I was flippant but the point made is still my opinion, and still think that the dogs trainer is the best person to advise. Jackie H

Have given the situation a bit more thought, why not phone The Company of Animals and ask for advice, they would know if the use of the collar would help and how to go about using it. They could also offer other suggestions. the phone number is 01923 566696 Fax 01932 565979, don't know if Dr Mugford still takes cases himself or how much fee advice the organisation would be prepared to give but they will know more than most about the use of the Master Collar. Hope this idea will bear fruit. Jackie H

Thank you so much for you help/advice. I suffer from an eye condition where my vision is near perfect in the day but at night/poor light I can't see. So in the daytime I can correct him when sniffing or being generally naughty. I try to watch him for signs when he's about to spend but he shows none, he just stops, bum to the floor and then he poo's. I've managed to stop him once and sat him for a few minutes and then continued home to which he did then spend. But that was the only time.

He does got to toilet on command "get busy". He was on Eukanbu Large Breed Maintenance but was on 18oz in kennels then they dropped this to 15 oz when I went to training. They did this because he wasn't holding his weight in kennels. Then when I got home they suggested dropping him to 13oz as Eukanuba advise a dog of 32kg should be on 275g a day. This seemed to stop him spending on walks but then after a week of this he went real tired, quiet. I thought he was ill and popped him to the vet and the vet said he simply isn't getting enough from his food and needs a higher protein content and so we have now moved him to Eukanuba Performance. This has perked him back up and he is on 350g of this food. But now his early morning poo has stopped! I'm not sure if this is because he doesn't need it anymore with this new food or if this is another problem starting.

I'm so desperate to sort this out I have made enquires to see a dog behourist in Chorley who charges £45 per half hours session which includes a 12 week follow up course. He's a lovely dog and works great he just has this problem. Do you think this is worth a shot as I'm not getting a solution from guide dogs justa work around.

Many thanks.

have you contacted Rosemary Williams in chorley

This person should contact GDBA At Bolton where I presume the dog came from,its a training problem and they will help her after all they have vast sums of money tied up in training guide dogs Im sure they will want to sort this out

I haven't contacted Rosemary. Who is she? The person I spoke to in Chorley was Dr David Sands.

ive emailed rosemarys number to you

I always take Max's wallet off him when on a walk so he can't spend any money :rolleyes: