Ok finally got the delivery of Phytocalm today and we're trying 2 capsules a day for Max to see if it de-stresses him - says on the bottle to 'help with every day stresses and strains' lol hope Max isn't suffering from Yuppy Flu :D

is this a herbal-over the counter thing, or is it through your vet?

This is an over the counter herbal calmer recommended by someone on here - unfortunately can't find the thread but it was recommended to someone on here by a Homeopathic Vet.

good luck with it---hows his training coming on with john rogersons person,

Not too bad dizzy we are in regular touch with Celia by email and are still working on the programme - we have seen Max become more responsive over the last few weeks - no idea why - but we are now moving onto stage 2 which involves trying to get Max to concentrate on us with distractions in the garden. We are going to try 2 Phytocalm a day just to try and take the edge off Max so he may be able to concentrate that little bit harder. Also Max has become a little less pushy over the last few weeks - he has the odd day where the pushiness returns but is generally less grumpy.

If it doesn't work for Max, then it will be useful for you and your parents! :D good Luck! :D

Well no improvement yet after 5 days

Well bangor the phyto soya did not hekp me with menapause either if that is any consolation :D mari

Have you tried uping the dosage a bit, we give HH 3 a day, sometimes 4 if I really want him quiet. Ingrid

Hi Ingrid is that for Bangor or me :D :D

Ok will up the doseage - just want to try and take the edge off him a litttle but so far no effect !

Marie if you are nick named Hell Hound then it could be for you :D !!!!!, it was for Bangor really. Ingrid`

roflol:Ingrid . I might up the dosage as well then , see who gets better first Max or me :

Oh I reckon there's still hope for you Mari, now Max well the saying 'abandon hope all ye who enter here' comes to mind. Ingrid

Well he's finished his Phytocalm course and now that he's off it seems more layed back than ever - maybe it's withdrawl symptoms :rolleyes:

Banger can you let me know how I can get some pls .

Pat xx

Banger does that mean it actually woprked for him. Ingrid

Pat - we got it from http://www.health-store.co.uk/ - took a week to deliver. Ingrid - I'm not sure we'll have to see over the next few weeks how he is - but now we have stopped he does seem pretty layed back !

Thanks Banger if Zac is no good on them I will take them instead he is such an handful
but so loving ,I have this theory that if I got some cattle in the garden for Zac to round up
he might calm down tried putting husband in garden and grandchildren to be rounded up
they did not like the head butting bit .

max is a real character dont change him too much he was made for you like my two came to me
freddie is going to be a beast I can feel it in my bones
Pat xx